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sabine
at 07:03, 19 Oct 2005
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why not beirut?
when HE tells HER that he doesn't feel respected as a man coming from a muslim country, that the people know neither its songs nor its language nor culture, she tells him: " I hear you. Tell me more." but still, she does not come and visit him while he's in beirut but chooses cuba. if she is interested in the culture of his homeland and wants to know more about it, why doesn't she go to beirut to see him? ( i adore your film, this is just a question that keeps spinning in my head after the second time i saw it.)
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sally potter
at 03:17, 21 Oct 2005
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Beirut
Perhaps they are going to Beirut together in the imaginary space after the film ends? But she must choose to go to Cuba first, it was her beloved aunts’ dying wish. Even a great love affair is eclipsed by the death of someone so close, and yet so (temporarily) forgotten. After their big argument in the car-park they are each returning to their own roots, actual and metaphorical, in order, paradoxically, to come together in a new way. Cuba is a third place, neither one nor the other, a kind of doorway into a possible future.
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yakoota
at 04:07, 29 Oct 2005
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re - third place
Dear Sally,
I haven;t seen your movie yet so I may be unqualified to put this to you.
But I just wanted to say from my personal experience, I really don;t think there is a third way. Although i wish there was. It would solve a lot of my problems if there was so I would very much like to believe this.
But no, I don't think this is possible for either party.
Why?
Because the two people then BOTH lose their connections to what grounds them (even though they ground each other) . Both would be strangers in a strange land and both losing their lidentity & culture at the same time. This reality creates an inordinate amount of stress in their lives rather than any kind of "freedom".
It could possible provide a short term fix but not a long term one.
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Brian
at 11:24, 30 Dec 2005
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a third "place"
Cuba is described as a third “place”, not a third way. There is a difference. Reference is made to an imaginary space after the film ends. There is no implication that He and SHE will settle down and live happily ever after in Cuba. Meeting on what could be called neutral ground can be helpful in situations that need a resolution, and where the home environment might get in the way. Also, people do not lose their identity and culture in strange places. More likely they hang on tighter than ever. A third or neutral place might well provide these two with the space they need to find a way in life. Who knows if it would be a first way, a second way, or whether that even matters? It was obvious in the film that they were not finding a path together in England, and Beirut probably would not have helped. The choice of Cuba seems to solve two problems. HER desire to see the place her aunt talked about, and THEIR need to come together to form a bond that could sustain them on what would, under any circumstances, be a difficult path. Sally Potter calls this a “doorway into a possible future”. It is not a guaranty of success, but a path to follow, and that is all most of us can hope for.
Brian Young
Port Townsend, WA
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